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I need feminism because
It’s acceptable to call me a slut.
I need feminism because
It’s okay for a guy to slap my butt.
I need feminism because
It’s my own fault if a man rapes me.
I need feminism because
I should look good for men to see.
I need feminism because
People think it means ‘anti-man’.
I need feminism because
I can’t do things that men can.
I need feminism because
Girls think it’s cool to shame each other.
I need feminism because
The world has higher hopes for my brother.
I need feminism because
My femininity makes me ‘weak’.
I need feminism because
If I act masculine I’m a ‘freak’.
I need feminism because
My boobs are my ‘best quality’.
I need feminism because
I believe in equality.
Please let me know what you think :)



Okay. Woah.

So this has gotten a very diverse reaction, which I think is great; everyone's entitled to an opinion. A few of the comments are a tad aggressive and I kind of feel like I'm being accused of being a man-hating bitch or whatever. I'm sorry if this poem made me come across as such; if so, I'm sincerely sorry. So, I've decided to clear a few things up.

Firstly, know that it's not okay "for a guy to slap my butt". I know that, technically, it's illegal and counts as sexual harassment. However, some people still think it's an okay thing to do. I can testify this as I've been groped a fair few number of times by men I didn't know. One example would would be at a gig I went to, a lot of gigs I've been to, and men thought it was okay to slap/grab my bottom or cop a feel of my boobs. Just because it's illegal, it doesn't mean it doesn't happen, the same goes for drugs - just because their illegal it doesn't mean that people don't take them.

I know that, if I got raped it wouldn't be my fault. However, there is so much victim-blaming going on in the world that it physically sickens me. People saying that the victim was 'asking for it' by wearing skimpy clothes or flirting. At the end of the day, rape is wrong no matter what. If the victim was stood there absolutely naked then she/he still wouldn't be asking for it.  

Feminism is not anti-man. Some people who call themselves feminists might be that way but, personally, I am not. It's not what feminism means. Not at all. Feminism is a faction in the fight for equality for all, regardless of race, gender, religion, sexuality, identity or any other issue. Feminism isn't about women being better than men; it's about all of us being equal. Feminism is an idea, a concept, and that's what it means to me.

MY USERNAME IS A REFERENCE TO NIRVANA - I AM NOT CALLING MYSELF A WHORE IN A SERIOUS SENSE.




I'm kinda sick of this poem, to be honest. Thus I'M NOT GOING TO RESPOND TO ANY MORE COMMENTS ON IT. However, feel free to comment and interact with each other. If you want me to answer something, feel free to note me.
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Kawaiijappy Featured By Owner 22 hours ago  Hobbyist General Artist
I think feminism should have a new definition; 
Real feminism is when woman were oppressed 200 years ago, when they didn't have any rights or were treated more as property.
Today feminism is just... an empty shell of that.
If you don't want men to catcall or stare inapproriately towards you,
dress modestly and show your inner strength towards them. This'll
solve all the "feminist issues" of today, just by that. I don't mean offense,
but girls actually have the advantage, not men. Why do girls find ways to complain about
problems like this when real feminism should be directed towards woman who really
are suffering from oppression? Modern day feminism is basically complaining that men
are being inapproriate, but of course if you wear shorts that are too short, wouldn't that
make some sense to why they act like that? If a woman saw a man with a tight shirt,
wouldn't the same happen? I'm sorry, I hope I didn't offend anyone :)
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Mecha-Naruto-Owner Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015
Well, Also long as your not an Extreme Feminist
then you'll be fine
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Tuuc Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2015
"Feminism is a faction in the fight for equality for all, regardless of race, gender, religion, sexuality, identity or any other issue."

That's the ideal. In practice, though, what does feminism do for men?

Uphold biased family courts in which men can be forced to pay more than their income in child support and alimony?

Support the Duluth Model which causes men to be arrested on domestic violence calls more often than women - even when the men are the ones calling police for help?

Promote the idea that sexual and domestic violence are "violence against women" despite research showing both are suffered by the sexes roughly equally?

Oppose the ideal of "innocent until proven guilty" by forcing colleges and universities to have disgustingly biased kangaroo courts for alleged sexual offenders and blocking efforts to make sure alleged rapists remain anonymous until they're actually convicted?
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Justintimetho Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2015
I need a new word for feminism because let's face it it's actual definition has been distorted and we need to start fresh if we're ever going to get anywhere. My first idea would have to be... "Equality." We're all humans, so what the hell is wrong with us.
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Lucijohn Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2015
We all need feminism... 
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meiyue Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2014  Student General Artist
I need feminism because
The world has higher hopes for my brother.
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SlugPonez Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2014
I am female. I don't argue "discrimination" every time someone does something I don't like. I don't use my gender to benefit myself, and I certainly don't use it for shaming men. I don't sit around feeling sorry for myself. I just try my hardest at life. I don't need feminism. I'm fine on my own.
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Gothicsage Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2014  New member
Clap 
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Reddzion Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2014  Student General Artist
I like it, it also makes me wonder how things would be the other way around, like if women/society treated men like how men/society treated women. Like how its "acceptable" for a guy to slap a girl's butt or stare at her boobs, what if a girl slapped a guy's butt or stared at his crotch would that be considered "acceptable"? 
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ComixThreeSevens Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
This is utter bullshit. I have been slapped by the girl just to humiliate me and it was perfectly fine for everybody. Hell, it was my fucking fault. So yeah, it's fucking acceptable, idiot. Hell, if girl would be staring at guy's crotch, he would take that as a compliment, dumbass.
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Reddzion Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2014  Student General Artist
I'm the dumbass? 
Not all men would like it if a girl stares at his crotch though, how can you assume such a thing? 
Some men are bi, some a gay, others have a different sexuality, hell there are even straight men that wouldn't like that. By your comment, it seems that its not rape if a girl does it to a guy because according to you.. he would enjoy it. 
How dumb are you? 
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Briannabater Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2014  Professional Photographer
So you're incapable of havint a conversation without just constantly cursing and insulting someone.  I see. 

You've been slapped by a girl and that "proves" there's no sexism against women?

Well, I just had a sandwich, so that proves there's no such thing as world hunger, right?
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Briannabater Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2014  Professional Photographer
Yep.  And the last 44 presidents have all been women, but I'm sure it's just a coincidence.   :P
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Wendrom Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
This poem is very important. I believe more people need to understand these serious issues.
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Briannabater Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014  Professional Photographer
Hear, hear.
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Briannabater Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2014  Professional Photographer
Thanks for writing this and sharing.  I agree 100%.
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ComixThreeSevens Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
You live in your tiny, pathetic world of delusions. And I'm glad you do. Because of your own stupidity, you will be always living in a world where you feel discriminated. It's not true, but your tiny little brain cannot comprehend this. You basically created your own punishment.
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milkchoclate641 Featured By Owner Edited Dec 13, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:nod: Exactly true.
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ComixThreeSevens Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Unfortunately, there are more woman like this than thinking ones. Just look at the amount of positive comments.
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Briannabater Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2014  Professional Photographer
Why would you think that it's okay to say something like this?

Did you just misunderstand what she wrote?
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Dartmaul15 Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2014
He understand it perfectly well, i'm afraid. The whole "i need feminism because" is like saying "i can't stand up on my own, so i need a collective to hide behind".
You're not solvieng anything by hiding in a collective, you're solving it by stepping out and proving yourself to be a stong independent woman who doesn't take shit from men. Because respect isn't demanded, it's earned. I do agree that it's way too easy for men, and too hard for women to get it, but that's not changing the fact that nobody will give you respect unless you earn it.
Boys have to earn it, we have to prove our worth. You have school grades, the army, work life... we always have to earn our value. Isn't it just fair girls have to do so too? And to earn your value it won't work to cry about something, you need to stand up strong, stick out of the crowd, and WORK to earn your value. Just like i have to do. Because that's how society works.

And the fact she ends this shit with "i believe in equality" uttelry disgusts me. She have made 11 legitimate claims about women's problems, and 0 about men's problems. That's not equality to me, that's not a focus on both gender's problems. If she REALLY wanted equality she'd devote time to men's problems too. She's a pureblood feminist, but no way in hell i'd label her an equalist based on this poem.

Rant over.
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Briannabater Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2014  Professional Photographer
Feminists are pushing for equality of opportunity.  And yes, that means we don't have that now.

Maybe they're a lot closer in Norway, but most people reading this are from the US or elsewhere, and we've never had a female head of state.  Ever.

Our society has a lot of institutional sexism against women, and really none against men.

You can ignore that if you want.  That's one of the many privileges our society gives to men.

There's no such thing as institutional "reverse racism" and no such thing as institutional "reverse sexism" against men. 

If a woman speaks out against sexism and makes what even you yourself call "legitimate claims," it seems that you think the responsible thing to do it to shout her down.

And here's the real kicker.  As a white guy, you think you have the authority to say feminists are legitimate or not.
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Dartmaul15 Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2014
True, EQUALITY have not come too far in usa.

FEMINISM by definition is all about women. It does not hold any room for men or men's problems. They're pushing for equality in areas were women are currently getting the shorter straw. Yes, i think shit needs to be fixed ASAP, but it's the wrong way to do it. You need to realize that you need to focus on both gender's problems, and the moment you do that you cease being a feminist. Because you're now an equalist.

You want to know an area where women are privilegied (at least here in norway), divorce cases and parental conflicts. There men are the ones getting the shorter straw, for no apparent reason. I believe i just pointed out "reverse sexism" as you so kindly put it. Or what about the whole dilemma of "woman hit man. If man hit back he's a woman beater, if man just take it he's a pussy for not fighting back". Or what about the stigma towards virgin men, or towards non muscular men? You see, it isn't one sided. The public just loves women's problems.

I suggest you read nora vincent's "self-made man". It's about a female who lived 18 months as a male. Quite an interresting tale (would've been cool if some men did it the other way too XD). Maybe you'll see that there are in fact things we men wish could be improved. . So let's do one thing; fix BOTH men's problems AND women's problems? okay?

The responsible thing when a woman stands up against sexism is making sure she's doing it the right way. You don't get change by demanding everyone else to adapt, you need to get in there and do the dirty work. You don't immediately become a CEO, you have to work the hard way. I'm not intending to shoot down any feminists, I'm simply intending to make them realize that the moment they demand being treated equally, they are no longer pampered for, put on a pedestal, treated like a fragile glass statue, or generally protected like they are (historically) used to. And that trial by fire is hard.
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Briannabater Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2014  Professional Photographer
Well, Feminism is pushing for equal treatment for men and women.  Including responsibilities like military service.

In your custody example, there seems to be a readily apparent reason.  We're starting to emerge from a period of human history in most of our societies where men had all the money, power, and influence *except* those responsibilities related to child bearing.  Your gender made the rules and now you're dealing with a consequence of patriarchy that puts you at a disadvantage in a small number of ways. 

As for your example that men are "called a pussy" if they don't hit women, that too arises from patriarchy, right?  I mean, it sounds like the worst insult you can think of for a guy is that he's like a woman.  Are you sure you want to claim that as a disadvantage?  But it is a real problem either way.

The stigma towards virgin men, or towards non muscular men, again, I agree that there's a problem and it's called patriarchy and a hyper masculine culture that encourages men to be violent and makes them feel bad when they don't have those qualities. 

But you're wrong if you think Feminists don't want to help address those issues, and indeed, it's the only ideology I can think of that has anything to say on those subjects.

Wikipedia is a good place to start, but consider reading up on feminist movements to work with men to change our hyper masculine culture.

And I don't think you've heard anything from me that makes it seem like I want to be treated like a glass statue.

But you have to understand that at least outside of Scandinavian countries, women are paid less than men for the same work. No one over here is afraid of hard work, but when men prevent us from having jobs in some industries or hire less qualified men over more qualified women, that's on them.
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Dartmaul15 Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2014
Have you read the definition of feminism? Because i don't think you have.
You claim feminism is doing something, but you fail to realize that it goes against the very definition of "feminism".
Wikipedia is a good place to start, but consider reading on "feminism" and "equalism".
But enough about that. You could call it "spagethi freedom fighters" if you want that.

Disregarding what i allready adressed about confusing "feminism" and "equalism", you do make some good point. I'm just finidng it quite distastefull how you chose to put a value to the total sum of one gender's problems, and blame the gender itself for it. Not necesarily because it's wrong, but because WHY THE HELL SHOULD THE PAST MATTER? I don't give a rat's ass why it is like it is, i just want to fix shit!

As for insults regarding men being compared to a woman. Yes, it is among the psychologically worst insults there is, because it refuses to aknowledge the fach is gender is male, and his sex is male. It's stripping a guy of everything he is. Even being called a sexist pig manwhore is better, because at least that aknowledges he's a man. But gender/sex related insults are meant to make a man feel inferior, or not feel like a man at all. It is among the worst (and most effective) forms of psychological abuse; directly attacking the very seense of his identity, his ego and his super-ego. That is why it's so bad.

Patriarhy... just the word we were missing. Do you really think the world is a patriarchy? Or do you tink it's simply about something called SOCIAL EXPECTATIONS? About men striving to fit in, to be normal, to be adequate, to be what society sees as a man. ANd that society includes you women too. You think men would behave like that if girls wanted comashionate, open, honest, emotional guys? You think it'd be an ideal to be emotionless like a rock if that was how girls wanted men? You could call it hyper masculine as you do, but you're not getting away from the responsibility women hold (in fact, you make up a larger portion of the population than men, so statistically you should have more to say).

Oh great, the same droning about payment per hour. I've heard that a million times, but NOBODY can answer how it's calculated. Is it effective entry level pay per hour? Has it taken into account factors like maternity leave (at least here in norway you are not paid for those by your employer), sick days, difference in how many hours you work... Thing is, i don't know. For all i know it could be a squewed statistic that only shows that women work less than men or that men hold generally better positions, since the statistics simply bases itself on total income per year without any form of modifications. And until i get that answered and sourced properly i'll chose to consider the arguement questionable at best.
Simply because its legitimacy can not be verified. (this is called source criticism)

But i think we could throw arguements back at eachother for ethernity without really achieving anything. Simply because of how we see society, and which problems we see in our everyday life.
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Briannabater Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2014  Professional Photographer
I don't know what to tell you guy.  Feminism addresses every single social problem related to masculinity that you mentioned and this is widely and deeply documented in books and writings of Feminists.

If you just can't get past "but it's called feminism... it doesn't *sound* like it has anything to do with guys," I can't help you.

MRAs and "masculinists" like the ones who recently started sending me threat mail would just call you a fucking pussy.

Everything I've said has made it clear that I'm interested in addressing hyper masculine culture, so why are you pretending like I'm saying the opposite?

Really?  No one has figured out gender pay gaps?  Or you just didn't bother to check?  Here are a lot of studies and there are in fact, a lot of ways to measure.  But all of them are clear that men get paid more than women, even when you control for all the variables including hours, experience, title, and education.  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male%E2%…

But hey, you don't have to educate yourself before you say that the statistics are skewed, right?  Just "droning" on with boring facts and figures, am I right?
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Eridans-Nipples Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
arnold schwarzennager 
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ShadowofWOPR Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2014
I think you need to stop eating up the high-piled crap left by third wave feminists and actually educate yourself.

"It's my own fault when a man rapes me"
Look up "Risk Minimization" you don't sue GM because you chose to drive 120mph without a seatbelt on.

"I can't do things men can"
Look up "Sexual Dimorphism"

"I believe in equality"
Oh so that's why 90% of the prison population is men...  And why genital mutilation against a woman carried $250k fine and 20 years in prison while genital mutilation against a man carries no fine or prison time and is considered a "religious right".
Or you know, how men get thrown into prison just for being accused of rape, but if a woman rapes a man not only did "the man enjoy it so it's not a crime" but now he must also "pay $20,000 in missed child support because your rapist had a child".

Yeah...  "Equality"...  As a male I would LOVE that...
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Briannabater Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2014  Professional Photographer
Wow... so you don't think it's a problem when a woman gets raped if you think she "did something to deserve it?"

You're all about the petty false equivalencies here, huh? 

Our culture is pretty good at telling women that they can't do things like be president, or run a large company.

Our culture has norms for men too, but instead, it tells them that they shouldn't stoop down so low as to play a role usually played by a women - or if her does, he's "girly"

So the worst insult you have for a man is that he's a girl.

You should get some perspective.
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ShadowofWOPR Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014
For someone claiming false equivalence you sure are keen to strawman.
I didn't say "you deserve to get raped" I said "You have some of the blame because you didn't partake in risk minimization"
huge difference.
Or to put it simply...  You don't dress in a red shirt and tan pants in a Target, because people will mistake you for wearing an employees uniform.  You may know you're not an employee, but you didn't take the 2 minutes to choose a different outfit to minimize your risk of being mistaken for one.
Similarly
You don't dress in a tube top, miniskirt, and g-string, go to slummy bars, then complain when people think you're a slut for the bedding.  Sure you may not be a slut, but you're wearing a sluts uniform, and *THAT* is your fault.

Or in a more extreme manner, you don't choose to wear a meat suit (because you're a lady gaga fan?) then go into an area filled with "DANGER - MOUNTAIN LIONS" signs.  You chose to wear the outfit, you chose to enter the area in said outfit, you chose to accept the dangers.  If you get attacked by a predator...  Well, I don't really have sympathy for the stupid.

"Our culture is pretty good at telling women they can't do things"
That's a good joke.  I don't even watch TV really but here, let me turn it on for about 5 minutes and see how many commercials there are telling women they *can* do whatever they want and how "in this day in age, young girls are under more stress than ever"
The answer is Three.
How many support commercials were there for males?  Zero.

"Our culture has norms for men too"
Yes it does.
"-but instead it tells them that they shouldn't stoop down and blahblahblah"
*sigh* No...  it just gives a double standard, you know the "You're a woman in the kitchen? HOW DARE YOU, YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN THAT, STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS!" vs "You're a man on the side of a highway changing a tire?  Well that's to be expected of you, women are empowered now, you should have to serve them, heaven forbid they learn how to change a tire, that's not their job."

"So the worst insult you have for a man is that he's a girl?"
Uhh, no?  I never said that?  If I did I was comparing it to the stupidity of "Ban Bossy"?

And I find it funny you completely ignored all the other points, like that genital mutilation part, that's a fun one.  Here I even drew up a map for ya.
imgur.com/a/u6moV
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Briannabater Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014  Professional Photographer
You say that women who are raped deserve part of the blame.  And that's the part you're interested in talking about most.  Yeah, that's insane.

Seriously, you lose the argument right there.

I don't care what you think of my clothes, if you rape me, it's you fault.  Tube tops are not immoral or illegal.  Raping someone is. 

Female genital mutilation is practiced by men as an assault on women to control and hurt them.  Circumcision is a medical procedure practiced to make men healthier.  It was started by men and it's generally done by men.  So why are you complaining and why all the sad false equivalency?
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dreams-and-starlight Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
In addition to this, when women get pregnant (unless there's an abortion, though that's somewhat rare), they have to live with a baby inside their body for approx. 9 months. They have to deal with physical changes and impacts on their daily lives. They have to be there for the baby at least until they give birth and give it up for adoption. If the baby is a product of rape, they are reminded of this every day (at least when they're pregnant) if they want to be or not. They also have to decide what to do with the baby, and some raise them by themselves.

In many colleges today, rape is not reported because of social stigma and whatnot and social predators often go on to do it again.

If you're male and you're raped, the $20,000 in missed child support is NOTHING compared to the emotional, physical and monetary cost of being pregnant and giving birth.
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dreams-and-starlight Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
But, in the workplace, women earn less than men in comparable jobs.

When considering who to promote, women are less likely to be chosen because they might get pregnant. It's true that they would have to be on maternity leave for a while, but a) the other parent should be there for the child too and b) women CAN balance having children and work, even though they're expected to be the primary parent.

All over the world, particularly in the middle east & India, there is still subordination of women. They don't have freedom, they can't be educated and many are married off to some old man (sometimes as a 2nd, 3rd or even 4th wife - it's technically allowed under Islam) at the age of 13 or 14. In the middle east, they also have to wear head scarves and sometimes have to be accompanied by a male relative when going out.

Even in western countries like the US, female students are sometimes disrespected by male teachers. Those teachers will pretend that a stupid question is asked each time a female student raises her hand while the same question coming from a male student would be seriously answered.

As for prison, women can also get put into prison for rape. Also, men are much more likely to be violent. Ever heard of domestic abuse? Hundreds, if not thousands, of women suffer from it every day because MEN ARE PHYSICALLY STRONGER.

As for genital mutilation, yes, guys will experience pain and it is dangerous. However, for women, more is cut away, it's extremely painful and WOMEN ARE THEN EXPECTED TO GIVE BIRTH, as if giving birth wasn't painful enough without genital mutilation.

Yes, there are some gender roles that are imposed upon men that aren't fair, but crimes against women are far greater and more long-lasting. The 19th Amendment (women's suffrage) wasn't even passed until 1920. Feminism doesn't mean that women are or should be superior, but that women's rights are a greater concern (at the moment) in regard to gender equality.
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ShadowofWOPR Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2014
"But, in the workplace, women earn less than men in comparable jobs."
This has been studied several times and has been shown to be largely untrue.
(so all that "70c/$1 stuff is more like 98c/$1 when you actually boil it down)
and if I were to cherry pick, women make over ten times as much as men *cough* in the exotic dancing industry *cough*


"When considering who to promote, women are less likely to be chosen because they might get pregnant. "
This is a legitimate point and isn't fully for for anyone or everyone.  What if they were, what if they weren't, what about men getting surgeries who don't get leave...  etc etc.
I feel I should note though other studies show that men are actually more likely to get promoted by how they wear their facial hair.  Where's my follecism? ;P

"All over the world, particularly in the middle east & India"
Yes and I will admit that's horrible; but this is the USA, and our "feminism" for the most part, isn't fighting for womens rights elsewhere, they're fighting for female supremacy here.  Which makes them just as bad as those countries, just on the other end of the gender pole.

"Even in western countries like the US, female students are sometimes disrespected by male teachers."
I've had the exact opposite problem myself.  Sexist pro-girl teachers that would punish boys for asking questions or playing the piano but let girls do whatever they wanted.  Getting expelled for "hacking" because the female teacher was too stupid to know the difference between a hack and a file transfer over LAN.  Having to restart my college project that took the entire semester to do in 2 days because the website programming teacher (female) didn't understand HTML.
I know these are personal experiences, but they happened too often to truly be "isolated".  Sexism is a two-way street.  And while you didn't bring it up, I was also called "Bossy" growing up.


"for women, more is cut away, it's extremely painful"
0.015% of women get 8,000 nerve endings severed
70% of men get 20,000 nerve endings severed

I'm not sure what part bugs me more though, the double standard, or the non-issue.
Wait wait I have a map for this too: imgur.com/a/u6moV

"crimes against women are far greater and more long-lasting."
So life in prison for not committing a crime isn't greater or longer lasting than being the victim of made up statistics?

I'm all for equality, but I actually look at all sides of the issue...
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Briannabater Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2014  Professional Photographer
So you think women should become prostitutes so they can make up the wage gap?

And then you completely make up statistics, then claim they don't even matter?  Some people get paid less than you just because of their gender.  You don't think that's a problem?

What a little prick.  Like... really tiny.

You might "feel" like teachers pay more attention to girls, but study after study shows that they don't.  They're more likely to call on guys and sociology has no problems measuring that effect. 

Take a step back and try to actually see this from all sides.
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ShadowofWOPR Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014
1: False equivalence, I didn't say "go be prostitutes" (nor are strippers prostitutes)
I said "Did you know female strippers make on average over twenty times as much as male strippers?"

2: They aren't made up, go do some research instead of parrotting the uninformed feminist north-wing.

3: "What a little prick, like...  really tiny"  I'm actually well above average but that's not the point, nice personal attack when you can't win an argument, would you kindly use the left side of your brain next time before you speak?

4: Oh I didn't "feel" I knew we ALL knew, sure MY teacher was an isolated instance, but it's pretty funny how if a teacher favors boys he gets fired, but if a pitiful excuse of a glorified babysitter blatantly favors girls she gets encouraged.
Also: Our education system as it stands favors girls, boys aren't biologically hard-wired to sit still in a desk for 8 hours a day listening to an adult drone on, we (on average) learn by acting and doing, not sitting and listening.  The school system as it's set up is built for females whether you personally want to accept that or not.  Ever wonder why so many boys are misdiagnosed with ADHD?  It's because they're tired of sitting still and want to do something, but the doctors just want to give the parents an easy excuse.  (It's also why most valedictorians are female...)

Why don't you take a step back and try to see this from the factual side.  It's a lot easier to see what is and is not going on when you let logic fuel you rather than emotion.  ...But I can't blame you, you can't help being female and having that oversize corpus callosum.
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Briannabater Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014  Professional Photographer
You don't know what a false equivalency actually is, do you?...  If women get raped more than men, but you say it's alright because they also get half-priced drinks on Saturday, sthat's a false equivalency.  You're claiming two things are equal when they are not. 

Men get paid more than women for the same work.  Rather than respond to posted studies, you suggest women could make more money as strippers, and then you backpedal.  Yes, that's pathetic.

Here are a few reference to empirical analysis of boys being favored by teachers - amptoons.com/blog/2006/11/16/g… You should also probably look up "confirmation bias" because all of you "logic" is really rooted in that fallacy.

You've still cited zero facts and have instead just been spewing your feelings while claiming that they're facts.
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Draikou Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I couldn't have said it better! Kudos!
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BraveSwordTactitian Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2014
If feminism was really about equality, the word masculism would exist.
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vulgar-thoughts Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
How about men would start making that word spread?
How about they build shelters for abused men? How about they do campaigns against prison rape? How about they organize prostate cancer-awareness campaigns? 
I would love to see that happen. But for some reason it doesn't really, and that's not feminism's fault.
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probunnylot Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2014
That word does exist, it means equal rights for men.
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CaldoRosa Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Great
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DragonsAndCrows Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Student General Artist
Powerful and absolutely wonderful. :)
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Nice poem.
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HunterStrait Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
"If I act masculine I’m a ‘freak’."

Aren't we all freaks? If you're too afraid to act masculine then don't act masculine at all because it can be tough.
I've been growing up with a deeper voice and more muscle mass, i can hardly get my shoulders through the sleeves of most women's shirts because my shoulders are naturally muscular, so i just wear unisex and mens t-shirts. If you're going to be a masculine woman you have to get used to being called a lesbian and a wanna-be man.
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NoctemScriptor Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
In the developed part of the world when it comes to civilization and humanism, fenism movements nowadays enlarge(or even create) the problem of discrimination rather than solving it. When there is virtually no discrimination, by fighting against such a thing is raising an argument for inferiority or superiority instead of accepting the difference and the uniqueness of each genre. I agree that in the past was quite beneficial and now in many countries in the developing world, such a movement is essential as a part of larger humanistic movement against any kind of discrimination.
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GrumpyOldRossco Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2014
Enlarge? Maybe. Create? Definitely. 
How often do you talk with a Feminist and when they are at the tail end of a debate, they suddenly proclaim something like "Well, I don't care what you think, I think I am valuable (or women are valuable)", to which you say, wh...what? I never said women weren't? Or they say something like "I was catcalled at, therefore Patriarchy, therefore Feminism" OK. But if you were catcalled then surely, but any reckoning, that was the fault of the jerk that did catcall, not society or men in general. 
So on and so on the false threat narratives go. Anything to keep women feel like disempowered angry helpless oppressed victims. It is really sick and revolting. I could not disrespect women like that. 
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lightbleueyes Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Student General Artist
I don't get why people are saying that women get less money because they work harder than men. That's not true. A woman can work equally or greater than a man and still get less money for it. 
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GrumpyOldRossco Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2014
Sorry, this is a lie. 
You know this right? 
You know why women on average get less than men on average (average fulltime male earnings vs average fulltime female earnings)?
It is for exactly the same reason that the workplace death and injuries is 95% male and 5% female. Men are paid more on average because they take higher paying jobs than females. Females trade off comfort for less pay and men on average will earn more because they are prepared to take more risk, longer hours, more remote places, more physically demanding work and yes jobs that are likely to kill or injure themselves at 1900% more than a women and YET Feminists want women to earn the same money as the men even after not choosing to work in the jobs in which men get pay more for NOT having those same comforts that women enjoyed. 
THAT is FEMINIST EQUALITY. 

This "A woman can work equally or greater than a man and still get less money for it. " Outright lie. You are either spreading Feminist propaganda in which they converted the average male fulltime earnings vs average female fulltime earnings  (fluctuates between 70-80c to every man's dollar : lately 77c is used) magically into 77c in the dollar for a fulltime women in exactly the same job as a fulltime male. 
Two very different things obviously. Either you are simply parroting this in which case, ignorance is no crime but you really ought to find out before you spout things that are a bit sexist and dishonest 

OR 

You are just being purposely dishonest and I have caught you out. 

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kat1004 Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ha. I know for a fact that women who do more work than men often get paid less. My mother used to work for a programming company, as an intern. She did far better, and far more, work than the men she was working under, yet when she would've gotten a promotion & pay raise, to the pay of a non-intern, she was laid off. Why? Well, her boss was a misogynist. And yes, that is a fact. The only reason he hired her at all was because of her programming skills. So don't go saying that it's a lie, just because that's one of the things you've been taught. And who taught you this? UrbanDictionary?
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